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The Way Out Is In

Brother Phap Huu, Jo Confino

Booking Overview

A Buddhist spirituality and mindfulness interview show focused on applying Zen teachings to personal transformation, compassion, community, and social change; its external guests are typically Plum Village monastics, mindfulness practitioners, authors, or values-driven business leaders. Credible pitches include established Buddhist teachers, contemplative authors, walking- or mindfulness-practice experts, and executives with demonstrated experience in compassionate or spiritually informed leadership; booking difficulty is medium because the show favors highly aligned, specialized guests over broad mainstream visibility.

Metrics

Episodes: 120

Frequency: Every two weeks

Rating: 4.9/5.0

Estimated listeners: 10,000 - 100,000

Gender skew: Neutral

Listener location: USA

YouTube: 481.0k subscribers

Instagram: 108.0k followers

Contact Information

Publicly listed emails

podcasts@plumvillage.org

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Host

Brother Phap Huu - Zen Buddhist monk, abbot of Plum Village’s Upper Hamlet, and Thich Nhat Hanh’s personal attendant for 17 years.

Jo Confino - Leadership coach working at the intersection of personal transformation and systems change, with experience writing about sustainable business.

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Booking Requirements

medium
Typical Credentials:  
Established Zen Buddhist or mindfulness practice; monastic, teaching, or authorship credentials; or substantial leadership experience demonstrating compassion, ethical transformation, and spiritually informed organizational practice.
Required Achievements:  
Published books on mindfulness, meditation, or Buddhist practice, Leadership of Buddhist or contemplative communities, Senior executive experience with a demonstrated commitment to ethical or compassionate leadership, Documented work in personal, organizational, or social transformation

Recent Guest Discussions

Sister True Dedication - Plum Village, Spiritual Community, Mindfulness Trainings, Personal And Societal Transformation, Self-acceptance, And Collective Change.

Sister True Dedication - Mindfulness, Self-compassion, Personal Transformation, Kindness, Presence, Community, And Recognizing One’s Inherent Worth.

Pham Minh Huong - Buddhist Principles In Business, Servant Leadership, Mindfulness, Trust, Consensus-building, Compassionate Company Culture, And Navigating Crises.

Brother Phap Xa - Walking Meditation, Presence, Freedom, Aimlessness, Silent Walking, Emotional Regulation, And Walking As A Practice Of Connection.

Recent Topics

Religion, Buddhism, Mindfulness, Meditation, Compassion

Episodes

Here's the recent few episodes on
The Way Out Is In
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Asking for Help (Episode #115)

October 01, 2026

If you wish to support our podcast, please follow this link. Thank you! Welcome to a new episode of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives. In this episode, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and leadership coach Jo Confino discuss the difficulty of asking for help, explori...

Paths of Change and Resistance (Episode #114)

September 17, 2026

If you wish to support our podcast, please follow this link. Thank you! Welcome to a new episode of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives. In this episode, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and leadership coach Jo Confino are joined by Zen Buddhist nun Sister True Dedicat...

You Are Already the Person You Want to Become – Live Recording with Q&A Session (Episode #113)

September 03, 2026

If you wish to support our podcast, please follow this link. Thank you! Welcome to a new episode of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives. This is our third live recording of the podcast made in London, England, in July, 2026, before a sold-out audience. In it, Zen Buddhis...

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Frequently asked questions

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The Way Out Is In
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How do I get in touch with The Way Out Is In?

The Way Out Is In is hosted by Brother Phap Huu and Jo Confino. Its publicly listed email is podcasts@plumvillage.org. For guest bookings, the host or producer is usually the best person to reach. Podseeker helps you find direct host and producer contacts and pitch from your own inbox.

What is the email for The Way Out Is In?

The publicly listed email for The Way Out Is In: podcasts@plumvillage.org.

How many listeners does The Way Out Is In have?

Podseeker estimates The Way Out Is In reaches 10,000 to 100,000 listeners per episode. Only the publisher has exact numbers.

Who is an ideal guest for The Way Out Is In?

The Way Out Is In typically books working professionals with real expertise. Typical guest background: Established Zen Buddhist or mindfulness practice; monastic, teaching, or authorship credentials; or substantial leadership experience demonstrating compassion, ethical transformation, and spiritually informed organizational practice. Common among recent guests: Published books on mindfulness, meditation, or Buddhist practice; Leadership of Buddhist or contemplative communities; Senior executive experience with a demonstrated commitment to ethical or compassionate leadership. Recent guests include Sister True Dedication, Sister True Dedication, and Pham Minh Huong.

How hard is it to get booked on The Way Out Is In?

Medium. Guests usually need solid credentials in the topic and an idea that fits the show.

What topics does The Way Out Is In cover?

Recent episodes cover Religion, Buddhism, Mindfulness, Meditation, and Compassion. Pitch an idea tied to one of these topics and mention a recent episode.

Publicly listed emails

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