FRIED. The Burnout Podcast

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Your Team Already Knows You're Burnt Out: Leadership, Capacity and the Busy Badge, with Anton Gunn

October 04, 2026

Your team already knows you're burnt out. Anton Gunn said it out loud on one of his leadership lives, and I almost drove off the road: "Leaders, your team knows you're burnt out, so here's what we're going to do about it."In this episode, I sit down with Anton Gunn, a leadership and workplace culture expert, former senior advisor to President Barack Obama, and one of the less than 1% of speakers in the Speaker Hall of Fame, to dig into why burnout is not a personal fai...

Burnout Is Not Your Fault, It's a Mismatch: An Early Look at My New Book, a #straightfromcait episode

September 27, 2026

FRIED Fam,One month before Mismatch: Why Good People Burn Out in Good Organizations lands, I got the email I was most nervous to open. A beta reader who has read a mountain of burnout books, and admits her honest reaction to most of them is "meh," told me this one was the exact opposite. So this week I am doing something a little different. I am reading her review on the show and walking you through what she noticed, because what she picked up on is the whole point of the book.Here is...

Former SWAT Negotiator: The Workplace Mental Health Lie Nobody Tells You | Jessi Beyer

September 20, 2026

FRIED Fam,Your company cares about mental health. There is a flyer in the break room, a pizza party in September, and an EAP number nobody calls. And people are still quietly drowning at their desks.This week I sit down with Jessi Beyer, MHP, a crisis mental health professional and former SWAT negotiator, to draw a hard line between crisis awareness (the flyer and the pizza party) and crisis readiness (actual skills that change what happens when a human being is struggling in front of you). J...