We're Not Marketers

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They're Paying $400K for a Job Product Marketers Already Do, w/ Elliott Rayner

October 08, 2026

Companies are posting head of storytelling roles at around $400K a year, and Elliott Rayner (Head of Storytelling at OWOW Agency and Creator of The Story Cohort) has the receipts: 25 of those job descriptions, pulled apart in his State of Storytelling 2026 report. His read is that it is a chief product marketing officer under a different name. The skill set they are asking for is a product marketing director's skill set. So why is nobody in product marketing putting their hand up?In this epis...

Death to Sameness w/ Nina Churchill

October 01, 2026

Nina Churchill quit her corporate PMM job effective immediately. She then wrote a series of posts on LinkedIn that reached about half a million people. She's a fellow product marketer and founder of Fresh View Concepts, where she helps B2B companies stop sounding like everyone else. We get into the post, the burnout and the 11 weeks of FMLA before it, and why we put up with behavior at work that we'd call abuse at home. Then the useful stuff. Why your manager is the top reason you stay or go....

Your CEO Just Handed You an Event. Now What? w/ Maggie Arai

September 24, 2026

Your CEO just said you're hosting an event. You've never run one. Now what?Maggie Arai is the Founder of IRL Studios, where she designs in-person events for online brands. She's run more than 70 of them. She's also the person keeping Death to Marketing, our own conference, out of a ballroom with fluorescent lighting.We asked her what a product marketer needs to know before their first event lands on their desk. Where the budget quietly disappears (food and bev, every time). Why every event ne...

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We're Not Marketers is hosted by Gabriel Bujold and Eric Holland. Its publicly listed email is feeds@ausha.co. For guest bookings, the host or producer is usually the best person to reach. Podseeker helps you find direct host and producer contacts and pitch from your own inbox.

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The publicly listed email for We're Not Marketers: feeds@ausha.co.

How many listeners does We're Not Marketers have?

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Who is an ideal guest for We're Not Marketers?

We're Not Marketers typically books working professionals with real expertise. Typical guest background: Hands-on experience in B2B SaaS product marketing, marketing leadership, copywriting, creative strategy, user research, or a specialized marketing discipline, with practical examples and informed perspectives on improving marketing execution. Common among recent guests: Leadership or senior responsibility in SaaS or technology marketing; Demonstrated expertise in product marketing, messaging, copywriting, creative strategy, or marketing operations; Direct experience applying marketing frameworks, customer research, or emerging marketing tools. Recent guests include Natalie Taylor, Jason Druss, and Gila Shapiro.

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Low. A guest with relevant expertise and a clear angle for its audience has a realistic chance.

What topics does We're Not Marketers cover?

Recent episodes cover Business, Product Marketing, B2b Marketing, Saas, and Positioning. Pitch an idea tied to one of these topics and mention a recent episode.