Episodes: 30
Frequency: Irregular
Rating: 4.2/5.0
Estimated listeners: 100 - 1,000
Gender skew: Neutral
Listener location: USA
YouTube: 20 subscribers
Publicly listed emails
joel@makower.com
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Joel Makower - Sustainability journalist, author, and co-founder of GreenBiz Group, with extensive expertise in corporate sustainability and climate strategy.
Solitaire Townsend - Sustainability strategist, author, and co-founder of Futerra, known for advising organizations on sustainability, climate action, and systems change.
Katharine Hayhoe - Climate Hope, The Limits Of Doom-based Climate Messaging, Public Engagement, And Effective Climate Action By Major Companies.
At Climate Week NY, the audience asks us anything
September 28, 2026
Recorded live at Solutions House during Climate Week NYC, this special episode turns the mic over to the audience. In an ask-us-anything session, Joel and Solitaire field questions from the crowd on AI, regeneration, misinformation, recycling myths, and intergenerational blame. They also cover how to talk with people who disagree with you, and how to stay hopeful when climate impacts hit close to home. The episode opens with the hosts asking each other questions: their regrets, their guilty p...
A new political coalition may be forming — what sustainability professionals need to do
September 06, 2026
What do data centers, energy shocks, extreme weather, Flock cameras and anti-oligarch anger have in common — and could they add up to something new? Joel Makower and Solitaire Townsend dig into whether the public is starting to connect a handful of "wild card" events, what history's unlikely coalitions (and its failed ones) can teach us about how this could go, and why sustainability teams need to get back to being an early-warning system instead of just a reporting function.
The tangible intangibles of sustainability events
August 24, 2026
Sustainability conferences are expensive, exhausting, and logistically brutal — so why does everyone keep going? Joel Makower and Solitaire Townsend dig into the real business case for in-person events: not the keynotes or panels, but the peer connections, chance encounters, and hallway conversations that never show up on an expense report. They talk through what a recent industry report gets right about event value, how the sustainability events calendar has changed shape, and why "inti...
Sustainability Uncovered · Medium booking difficulty · 100 - 1,000 listeners
Two Steps Forward — Sustainability Meets Business Reality is hosted by Joel Makower and Solitaire Townsend. Its publicly listed email is joel@makower.com. For guest bookings, the host or producer is usually the best person to reach. Podseeker helps you find direct host and producer contacts and pitch from your own inbox.
The publicly listed email for Two Steps Forward — Sustainability Meets Business Reality: joel@makower.com.
Podseeker estimates Two Steps Forward — Sustainability Meets Business Reality reaches 100 to 1,000 listeners per episode. Only the publisher has exact numbers.
Two Steps Forward — Sustainability Meets Business Reality typically books well-known public figures. Typical guest background: Recognized climate scientists, senior sustainability or business leaders, published authors, and experienced practitioners with substantial expertise in climate action, sustainable business, or systems change. Common among recent guests: Published books or widely recognized research; Senior leadership at major sustainability, scientific, or business organizations; Established public expertise in climate strategy or sustainable business. Recent guests include Katharine Hayhoe.
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