The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia

Phoebe Gates, Sophia Kianni

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Booking Overview

A founder-led business career show where Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni talk with high-profile entrepreneurs about ambition, networking, and building careers without burning out. It blends practical startup lessons with candid behind-the-scenes stories—great visibility for brands looking to reach young operators and founder communities.

Metrics

Episodes: 52

Frequency: Monthly

Rating: 3.9/5.0

Estimated listeners: 1k-10k

Gender skew: Female

Location: USA

YouTube: 282.0k subscribers

Instagram: 470.0k followers

Contact Information

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Host

Phoebe Gates - Stanford roommate turned startup co-founder and business partner. Co-host of The Burnouts, sharing founder perspectives on startup life, financial literacy, social impact, and navigating networking...

Sophia Kianni - Stanford roommate turned startup co-founder and business partner. Co-host of The Burnouts, focusing on the realities of building a career and company—topics include financial literacy, social impac...

Booking Intelligence

Booking Requirements

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Typical Credentials:  
Established founders, investors, and high-visibility executives (often with a public platform) plus select high-performing industry experts (e.g., sales coaching) who can share actionable career/leadership lessons.
Required Achievements:  
Founder/CEO of a scaled company, Major media/investor presence (e.g., Shark Tank-like recognition), Significant company valuation or exits, Recognized thought leadership in business/networking, Public-facing brand or influence across sports/culture/entrepreneurship

Recent Guest Discussions

Shelby Sapp - Sales Psychology Tactics, Confidence, Closing Deals, Female-specific Sales Approach, Applying Sales Tactics To Relationships, Quitting A 9-to-5

Barbara Corcoran - Entrepreneurial Origin Story, Scaling Workforce, Setbacks, Rebuilding With Limited Capital, Key Traits Of Entrepreneurs, Leadership And Firing Practices, Investing Criteria

Michael Rubin - Relationship-building And Networking, White Party / Power-culture Dynamics, Philanthropy Strategy, Business Growth Mindset, Discovering Young Talent, Personal Routines And Resilience

Recent Topics

Founders, Entrepreneurship, Startups, Networking, Career

Episodes

Here's the recent few episodes on
The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia
:

Why Most People Lose Arguments (Sales Tricks That Made Shelby Sapp $1M/Month at 24)

May 07, 2026

How did Shelby Sapp go from selling rat poison door-to-door to becoming a 24-year-old founder making 8-figures per year? It's the same trick she uses to win arguments with her fiancé and pick the wedding venue she actually wants... In this episode, Shelby breaks down the tactics she's used that can win over anybody. Shelby Sapp is a high-ticket sales coach who teaches sales psychology to other women. She started knocking on doors at 18 selling pest control, became the top first-year rep in th...

Shark Tank Icon: Turning $1,000 to $1Billion! (ft. Barbara Corcoran)

April 23, 2026

Barbara Corcoran is the founder of the Corcoran Group, one of New York's most iconic real estate brands, and a star investor on ABC's Shark Tank for 17 seasons. From being told she was stupid in school and her ex saying she'd never succeed without him to building a 1,000-person company and selling it for $66 million, she's become one of the most trusted voices in business and a fairy godmother to hundreds of entrepreneurs.    Chapters  00:00 - Her Biggest Failure Started in Childhood  00:41 -...

What Really Happens at Billionaires' Private Parties (Michael Rubin)

April 09, 2026

Michael Rubin breaks down the truth about the White Party, why relationships matter more than people realize, and how he thinks about building rooms where power, business, and culture collide. He shares how Fanatics grew into a $40 billion company, why he treats networking as a real business skill, and what most people misunderstand about success. Michael Rubin is the founder of Fanatics and one of the most connected figures in sports, business, and culture. In this conversation, he opens up ...

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