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1KHO 828: Think of Leisure as a Skill | Luke Burgis, The One and the Ninety-Nine

June 15, 2026

We spend so much time learning how to work, achieve, optimize, and produce that many of us have forgotten how to simply enjoy being alive. In this thought-provoking conversation, Luke Burgis explains why leisure isn't a reward for getting everything done. It's a skill that has to be practiced. Together we explore the tension between belonging and individuality, why technology makes it harder to know what we truly want, the disappearance of rites of passage, and what it takes to raise kids who...

1KHO 827: Peace Before Productivity | Jordan Raynor, Redeeming Your Time

June 14, 2026

Most of us wake up feeling behind before our feet hit the floor. Jordan Raynor joins Ginny Yurich for a conversation that cuts straight through the pressure, hurry, and low-grade anxiety so many of us carry every day. They talk about why work matters to God, why Jesus may be the most practical productivity teacher who ever lived, and how our obsession with being constantly available is making us less present with the people we love most. Jordan shares life-changing ideas about open loops, bor...

1KHO 826: Play is the Antidote to Performance | Nicole Zasowski, What If It's Wonderful?

June 13, 2026

So many of us are preparing for disaster while life is happening right in front of us. In this beautiful conversation, Nicole Zasowski shares how years of loss, infertility, and heartbreak taught her something unexpected: joy isn't something you stumble into after everything works out. It's something you practice. We talk about why kids celebrate so naturally, why adults often lose that ability, how play helps break the grip of performance and productivity, and why noticing beauty outdoors mi...