Living Dharma Podcast

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Ep. 7: Bill and Susan Morgan — Lighting Up the Moment (Bringing heart and play into daily practice)

June 16, 2026

In this episode of Living Dharma, co-hosts Tsunma Kunsang Palmo and Justin Kelly sit down with Bill and Susan Morgan, two highly respected voices at the intersection of mindfulness and psychotherapy. With over three decades of teaching together—including a consecutive four-year retreat at the Insight Meditation Society's Forest Refuge—Bill and Susan share their personal evolution away from rigid, hyper-intensive meditation toward an accessible, heart-centered approach. Drawing from their...

Ep. 6: Susan Kaiser Greenland — Real World Enlightenment (Mindfulness for Kids & Everyday Life)

April 14, 2026

In this episode of Living Dharma, we sit down with Susan Kaiser Greenland—best-selling author, mindfulness teacher, Mind & Life fellow, and a pioneering voice in bringing contemplative practice into schools and family life.Susan shares her path into meditation through a family health crisis, the challenges of a strong “thinking mind,” and how her legal training helped her navigate secular education settings with precision and care. We explore her foundational principle—“serve the child in...

Ep. 5: Devon Hase — Ritual, Responsibility, and Remembering Why We’re Here

March 02, 2026

In this grounded and intimate conversation, Devon Hase reflects on Dharma not as abstraction, but as lived responsibility—something enacted through relationship, ritual, and daily attention.Rather than positioning practice as something separate from ordinary life, Devon speaks to the ways discipline, devotion, and meaning emerge through showing up consistently: for community, for grief, for inner listening, and for the world as it is. The conversation explores how ritual functions as a techno...