Episodes: 500
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Nate McClennen - Team member at GettingSmart.com and co-host of the Getting Smart Podcast. Focuses on translating developing trends in education into practical, leadership-oriented takeaways through interviews with...
Rebecca Midles - Getting Smart Podcast team member and host. Guides episodes that explore actionable strategies in education leadership, including research-informed approaches to learning, technology, entrepreneurs...
Adel DiOrio - Moving From Fragmented Initiatives To Coherence Via Knowledge Management, Transformational Leadership, And Coaching; Rural School Research And Practical Leadership Takeaways
Rebecca Wolfe - Turning Innovation Into Systemic Change; Teacher Agency, School Leadership And Culture; Scaling And Spreading Innovations
Meghan Utech - District Transformation And System-level Change; Disciplined Sequencing; Honest Self-examination And Courage To Shift Systems
Tim Hejnal - District Transformation And System-level Change; Sequencing And Continuous Improvement; Avoiding Movement-for-progress
How Can We Lead Away From Fragmentation and Towards Coherence? | Adel DiOrio
May 20, 2026
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen sits down with Dr. Adel DiOrio to explore how school leaders can move from fragmented initiatives to real coherence through knowledge management, transformational leadership, and coaching. Drawing on her research in rural school systems and insights from The Coach's Playbook, Adel shares why documenting what works, building strong relationships, and leading with intention are essential to sustaining improvement over time. From the p...
How Do Schools Turn Innovation Into Systemic Change? | Rebecca Wolfe
May 13, 2026
Why do so many promising ideas in education stay stuck in individual classrooms? In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen talks with Rebecca Wolfe about what it takes to turn innovation into lasting system change. From teacher agency and school leadership to accountability and knowledge-sharing, they explore how schools can create the conditions for ideas to spread, scale, and ultimately support learner thriving. Outline (00:00) Intro & The Problem (12:46) Learning Fro...
Transformation Journey: Lake City Area Schools with Tim Hejnal and Meghan Utech
May 08, 2026
Every school that has tried to change and failed has done so for the same reason: the system kept producing exactly the results it was designed to produce, and nobody changed the system. What Lake City Area Schools discovered — through honest self-examination, disciplined sequencing, and a refusal to mistake movement for progress — is that real transformation requires a different kind of courage than most improvement efforts demand. Not the courage to launch something new, but the courage to ...
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