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Episodes: 247
Frequency: Weekly
Rating: 4.9/5.0
Estimated listeners: 1k-10k
Gender skew: Male
Location: USA
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John Vervaeke - Host of “The Official John Vervaeke Podcast Feed,” speaking about wonder/astonishment, normativity (what we should do), and spiritual practice. He also discusses pilgrimage as a meta-practice and e...
William Desmond - Astonishment Vs Curiosity; Scientism; Having Vs Being; Insight Vs Computation/ai; Spiritual Practice; Socrates/jesus/buddha; Trust And Forgiveness.
Christopher Mastropietro - Normativity And Cultural Direction; Virtue And Reorientation; Pilgrimage/leisure/dialogos; Doomscrolling As Narrowed Participation.
Guy Sengstock - Encounters In The AI Community; Fear Of Irreversible Decisions; Normativity; Embodied/participatory Meaning; Vigilance Against Narrowed Reality.
Jordan Hall - Normativity And What We Should Do; Participatory Meaning; Virtue As Transformed Attention; Ai’s Impact On Irreversible Decisions; Dialogue Boundaries; Doomscrolling.
Ish Peregrino - Pilgrimage As Meta-practice; Beyond-human/sacredness; Tourism Vs Exploration Vs Pilgrimage; Metanoia/self-emptying; Pilgrimage And Relationship To God; Integration (dreams, Grief, Community).
Why Wonder Is More Than Curiosity with William Desmond
June 26, 2026
What happens when wonder is reduced to curiosity, and curiosity becomes a drive to master everything? In this second conversation with William Desmond, John Vervaeke returns to the question of astonishment: not as a passing emotional state, but as a deeper opening of the mind to reality. Desmond frames scientism as a philosophical interpretation of science that tries to make all essential questions answerable through determinate method, precision, and control. Science remains valuable, but sc...
Why We No Longer Know What We Should Do with Jordan Hall, Guy Sengstock, and Christopher Mastropietro
June 19, 2026
What happens when a society possesses extraordinary technological power but lacks a shared sense of what that power is for? John Vervaeke, Jordan Hall, Guy Sengstock, and Christopher Mastropietro reunite for a sustained inquiry into normativity: the structures by which human beings perceive direction, value, responsibility, and the difference between better and worse action. The question becomes urgent in the context of artificial intelligence, where increasingly consequential decisions are b...
Ish Peregrino: Pilgrimage Is More Than Travel. It Changes How You See Reality
June 05, 2026
What if pilgrimage is not primarily about reaching a destination, but about learning how to be addressed by reality again? In this episode of Lectern Dialogues, John Vervaeke speaks with Ish Peregrino, a practitioner, facilitator, and pilgrim whose very chosen name carries the meaning of pilgrimage. John met Ish during his own pilgrimage in Spain, and their conversation returns to the question of what pilgrimage makes possible: spiritually, psychologically, relationally, and culturally. Ish b...
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