The Other 22 Hours

Aaron Shafer-Haiss, Michaela Anne

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Booking Overview

A sanctuary for creatives, this show pairs artist-to-artist interviews with practical, emotionally grounded insight into sustaining a life in the arts. For PR teams, it’s a strong fit for Grammy-level musicians and other respected artists who want to discuss the craft, career realities, and creative wellness behind the “highlight reel.”

Metrics

Episodes: 154

Frequency: Weekly

Rating: 4.9/5.0

Estimated listeners: 1k-10k

Gender skew: Neutral

Location: USA

YouTube: 827 subscribers

Instagram: 1.7k followers

Contact Information

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Host

Aaron Shafer-Haiss - Producer/mixer and composer; writes, performs, and produces original music featured on the show. His work includes composing for major network dramas such as Station 19 and The Good Doctor, and he ...

Michaela Anne - Songwriter and creative coach whose work includes the record These Are The Days, noted for her ownership/independence in the creative process. Her focus centers on sustaining the creative spirit in...

Booking Intelligence

Booking Requirements

high
Typical Credentials:  
Renowned or established creative professionals—especially acclaimed musicians/songwriters/arrangers and adjacent high-visibility artists (authors/visual artists/actors) with strong public recognition and career longevity
Required Achievements:  
GRAMMY nominations/wins, Hall of Fame or major industry recognition, Work with multiple high-profile artists, Long-form catalog impact (e.g., defining songwriting/arranging eras)

Recent Guest Discussions

Matraca Berg - Commercial Success Vs. Creative Process; Stage Fright; Songwriting Career Longevity; Streaming Economics; Aging Within An Art Form

Rob Moose - Touring Vs. Studio Life; Feast-or-famine Mindset; Fatherhood And Creative Focus; Legacy And Creative Boundaries

Recent Topics

Music, Songwriting, Art, Career, Legacy

Episodes

Here's the recent few episodes on
The Other 22 Hours
:

Heather Mae on social justice songwriting, the hedonic treadmill, and hearing god during a massage.

June 10, 2026

We often look at an artist's career through the lens of industry accolades: the tours, the streaming numbers, the awards. But what happens when you intentionally dismantle your creative ego to build something focused entirely on collective liberation? Heather Mae is an award-winning independent artist, the founder of Singing Resistance Nashville, and a prominent voice in organized musical activism. Following a viral arrest at the Tennessee Capitol while protesting anti-trans legislation, ...

Matraca Berg on the Nashville Hit Machine, streaming economics, and getting busted by bro country.

June 03, 2026

We often treat commercial success as the final destination of a creative life, but for legendary songwriter Matraca Berg, it was just the first act. She was the first woman to have five different country No. 1s in a single year and her songs have been recorded by everyone from Linda Ronstadt, Trisha Yearwood, and Deana Carter to the Chicks, Chris Stapleton, and Reba McEntire. Matraca’s catalog defines generations of American songwriting.We sit down the GRAMMY-nominated member of the Songwriti...

Rob Moose on the feast-or-famine mindset, songs as love letters, and remaining child-like.

May 27, 2026

Behind nearly every influential indie-rock and pop record of the last 15 years has been the brilliant mind and hand of string arranger and multi-instrumentalist Rob Moose. The three-time GRAMMY winner has contributed to thousands of records by the likes of Paul Simon, Taylor Swift, Phoebe Bridgers, Bon Iver, St. Vincent, Bruce Hornsby, and Mumford & Sons. In this calming, deeply reflective conversation, Rob opens up about "peaking" in the live touring industry, the transition to a...

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