The Other 22 Hours

Aaron Shafer-Haiss, Michaela Anne

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Booking Overview

An interview podcast about sustaining a creative life, featuring intimate artist-to-artist conversations with established musicians and other accomplished creatives, including authors, visual artists, and actors. Agencies could credibly pitch award-winning or widely recognized artists, working creatives with notable cultural credits, and authors or creative professionals with substantive perspectives on artistic longevity; booking difficulty is high.

Metrics

Episodes: 158

Frequency: Weekly

Rating: 4.9/5.0

Estimated listeners: 1k-10k

Gender skew: Neutral

Location: USA

YouTube: 827 subscribers

Instagram: 1.7k followers

Contact Information

info@theother22hours.com

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Host

Aaron Shafer-Haiss - Producer and mixer who co-hosts the show and produces its episodes and original music.

Michaela Anne - Songwriter and creative coach who co-hosts intimate conversations about the realities of sustaining a creative life.

Booking Intelligence

Booking Requirements

high
Typical Credentials:  
Acclaimed working artists and creative professionals with substantial careers, recognized cultural or commercial credits, awards or major nominations, published books, or a distinctive and well-developed perspective on sustaining creative work.
Required Achievements:  
GRAMMY recognition or other major awards, Platinum recordings or major commercial credits, Appearances in prominent film or music projects, Published books, Long-standing careers in the arts

Recent Guest Discussions

James Gardin - Music Licensing, Songwriting Education, Community, And Building A Sustainable Creative Career.

Lukas Nelson - Creative Identity, Sobriety, Physical Discipline, Touring, Relationships, And Artistic Longevity.

Judy Collins - Creative Discipline, Sobriety, Grief, Poetry, Community, Daily Artistic Practice, And Continuing To Create Throughout Life.

Recent Topics

Music, Songwriting, Creative Practice, Art, Artist Wellness

Episodes

Here's the recent few episodes on
The Other 22 Hours
:

James Gardin on deconstructing the sync world, overcoming over-analysis, and the male affordable Lizzo.

July 08, 2026

How do you build a sustainable life around your art when the traditional definitions of success feel increasingly narrow? In this conversation, we sit down with musician, songwriter, and educator James Gardin. While his joyous, infectious music has found a global audience through major sync campaigns for brands like Apple, Tommy Hilfiger, and Saks Fifth Avenue, James’s core creative philosophy is anchored in something much more grounded: community, education, and the refusal to second-guess t...

Lukas Nelson on shedding expectations, the antidote to egos, and training like an Olympian.

July 01, 2026

It is easy to look at a lifetime spent traveling on a tour bus in a famous family and assume the creative path was completely clear. We sit down with GRAMMY-winning singer-songwriter and guitar player Lukas Nelson ('A Star Is Born,' Promise of the Real, Neil Young) for an incredibly honest conversation about moving past the shadow of his father Willie Nelson's towering legacy, and detangling his identity from the cliched drug-induced creative culture. We explore the distinct clari...

Judy Collins on collective dreams, keeping the channel clear, and why artist's don't retire.

June 24, 2026

"We write to find out who we are." For over six decades, Judy Collins has been a pillar of American music: from GRAMMY awards, platinum records, and Oscar nominations, to writing 8+ books and landing her first No. 1 album at 80 years old.But behind the staggering accolades is an artist who still treats her craft as a sacred, daily blue-collar job. In this conversation, we explore the quiet discipline of her daily routines, the sanctuary of her 48 years of sobriety, and what she calls ...

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