The Normal 40 Podcast

#86: The Return: A father and son conversation about Faith, Growth, Obedience, Becoming and What Happened Next

April 24, 2026

Most people never realize when they’re living a “last.”They just move through the day.Answer emails. Take the call. Say “we’ll catch up soon.”And then it’s gone.18 months ago, Lon sat on a beach in Kona with his son Dawson on the last day of something they’d always known—father and son, in its simplest form. The next morning, Dawson would leave for a journey neither of them fully understood.Dawson was 19.He didn’t know where he was going.He just knew he had to go.That episode captured the mom...

#85: The Advice: A father and son conversation about Faith, Family, Purpose, Art, Growing Up and our Last Days.

April 05, 2026

What do you say when you know the day matters?Not because something is ending forever.But because you know, deep down, this version of life is.This episode took 18 months to publish. It was recorded on the beach in Kona, Hawaii, on the eve of a first and a last. Dawson was about to begin a new chapter — one that would take him across the world, deeper into his faith, and further from home than ever before. And Lon, as a father, knew this day represented something sacred: the last day his son ...

#84: The Avoidance: The Hidden Pattern That Quietly Caps Your Potential

March 13, 2026

This episode is different from the usual Normal 40 conversations.This is a confession.In this episode, Lon pulls back the curtain on a realization that caught him off guard while writing his second book, The Gap. As he mapped the patterns of thousands of conversations with high performers stuck on the backside of their success curve, he discovered something uncomfortable:The same pattern he was writing about in others… was alive in him.A quiet form of avoidance.Not the avoidance of hard thing...