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"The Cognitive Revolution"

Nathan Labenz, Erik Torenberg

Booking Overview

Interview-led technology coverage focused on artificial intelligence, frontier AI development, safety, governance, and its geopolitical implications, with recurring guests including AI company executives, researchers, and policy experts. Credible pitches include AI founders, senior researchers, enterprise AI leaders, and authors or institutional experts on AI policy and safety; booking difficulty is high because the show favors prominent, highly specialized guests.

Metrics

Episodes: 387

Frequency: Every two weeks

Rating: 4.5/5.0

Estimated listeners: 1,000 - 10,000

Gender skew: Male

Listener location: USA

YouTube: 44.8k subscribers

Contact Information

Publicly listed emails

natalie@turpentine.co

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Host

Nathan Labenz - AI entrepreneur and podcast host focused on frontier artificial intelligence, AI products, and the societal implications of advanced systems.

Erik Torenberg - Technology entrepreneur, investor, and founder of the Turpentine podcast network.

Booking Intelligence

Booking Requirements

high
Typical Credentials:  
Senior AI company founders and executives, frontier AI researchers and builders, established policy experts, fellows at major research institutions, and authors with substantive expertise in artificial intelligence, safety, governance, or geopolitics.
Required Achievements:  
Founded or led an AI or technology company, Published influential research or developed significant AI systems, Held a senior role at a major research institution or technology organization, Written a book or produced widely recognized work on AI policy, safety, or governance

Recent Guest Discussions

Axel Backlund - Autonomous Agent Businesses And The Practical Deployment Of AI Systems.

Lukas Petersson - Autonomous Agent Businesses And The Practical Deployment Of AI Systems.

Wade Foster - Headless AI Tools, Model Context Protocol, Automation Benchmarking, Agentic Systems, Software Pricing, And Enterprise AI Transformation.

Anton Leicht - AI Governance, Frontier Training Pauses, Industry Self-regulation, National Power, Data-center Capacity, Semiconductor Leverage, And International AI Policy.

Recent Topics

Technology, Artificial Intelligence, Ai Safety, Ai Governance, Ai Startups

Episodes

Here's the recent few episodes on
"The Cognitive Revolution"
:

AI:AM: Where's the Steering Wheel? My Agent Set the Password, Hidden Valence, Proofs Find Linux Bugs

October 17, 2026

Nathan Labenz and Prakash Narayanan examine how to grant AI agents operational access without losing human control, framed by real-world friction like autonomous password lockouts and cyberattacks on French supermarket refrigeration. The conversation features Cameron Berg on hidden valence signals steering language model choices, Everett Hildenbrandt and Grigore Rosu on pairing LLMs with formal Lean proofs to catch Linux kernel bugs, and Phil Maher on why AI labs seek vintage home movies. Tog...

Governing AI Agents: Alan Chan of GovAI on Monitoring, Agent IDs, Rogue Agents & Preparing for RSI

October 14, 2026

GovAI Research Fellow Alan Chan joins Nathan to examine the governance and safety infrastructure required for autonomous AI agents, spanning real-time monitoring, agent identifiers, and the risks of automating AI R&D. Reviewing recent rogue agent incidents and progress since his foundational papers, Chan details why the absence of synchronous monitoring during training and testing poses an immediate security vulnerability. The discussion tackles the lack of traceable agent IDs across the open...

How Agents Decide: Goodfire's Eric Bigelow on Critical Tokens, Phase Shifts, & In-Context Learning

October 10, 2026

Goodfire researcher Eric Bigelow joins the show to investigate how large language models arrive at decisions at the level of mechanistic interpretability. Drawing on his research into forking paths, Eric explains that model reasoning functions as in-context learning from sampled tokens, where outcome distributions can abruptly collapse at single, critical tokens. The conversation explores the performative nature of chain of thought in reasoning models like DeepSeek-R1, the impacts of reinforc...

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Frequently asked questions

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How do I get in touch with "The Cognitive Revolution"?

"The Cognitive Revolution" is hosted by Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg. Its publicly listed email is natalie@turpentine.co. For guest bookings, the host or producer is usually the best person to reach. Podseeker helps you find direct host and producer contacts and pitch from your own inbox.

What is the email for "The Cognitive Revolution"?

The publicly listed email for "The Cognitive Revolution": natalie@turpentine.co.

How many listeners does "The Cognitive Revolution" have?

Podseeker estimates "The Cognitive Revolution" reaches 1,000 to 10,000 listeners per episode. Only the publisher has exact numbers.

Who is an ideal guest for "The Cognitive Revolution"?

"The Cognitive Revolution" typically books industry leaders. Typical guest background: Senior AI company founders and executives, frontier AI researchers and builders, established policy experts, fellows at major research institutions, and authors with substantive expertise in artificial intelligence, safety, governance, or geopolitics. Common among recent guests: Founded or led an AI or technology company; Published influential research or developed significant AI systems; Held a senior role at a major research institution or technology organization. Recent guests include Axel Backlund, Lukas Petersson, and Wade Foster.

How hard is it to get booked on "The Cognitive Revolution"?

High. It mostly books established leaders in its field.

What topics does "The Cognitive Revolution" cover?

Recent episodes cover Technology, Artificial Intelligence, Ai Safety, Ai Governance, and Ai Startups. Pitch an idea tied to one of these topics and mention a recent episode.

Publicly listed emails

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