Sounds of SAND

Jess Ghannam, Rae Abileah

podcast@scienceandnonduality.com

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Booking Overview

Sounds of SAND blends contemplative inquiry with socially engaged, spiritually grounded dialogue—positioning guests at the intersection of psychology, healing, decolonial practice, and justice. For PR, it’s a strong platform for thought leaders who want nuanced, values-driven conversations that connect inner work to systemic change.

Metrics

Episodes: 176

Frequency: Irregular

Rating: 4.7/5.0

Estimated listeners: 1k-10k

Gender skew: Neutral

Location: USA

Contact Information

podcast@scienceandnonduality.com

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Host

Jess Ghannam - Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Global Health Sciences at UCSF; serves as facilitator for the conversation episode featuring Dr. Samah Jabr, Dr. Gabor Mat, and Dr. Jennifer Mullan.

Rae Abileah - Social change strategist, Jewish faith leader, and member of the SAND team; facilitates the episode featuring Nkem Ndefo and Staci K. Haines.

Booking Intelligence

Booking Requirements

medium
Typical Credentials:  
Advanced practitioners and public intellectuals with credible subject-matter expertise in psychiatry/psychotherapy, psychology/trauma, somatics, and/or contemplative/spiritual traditions—often with decolonial, justice-oriented or community-rooted practice and published books/models/courses.
Required Achievements:  
Authoring widely read books or frameworks (e.g., trauma/therapy decolonization, somatics and social justice), Leading organizations, projects, or training programs (e.g., clinics, initiatives bridging healing and justice), Academic or clinical leadership roles (e.g., professorships, ministry/health leadership)

Recent Guest Discussions

Jennifer Mullan - Decolonizing Therapy; Oppression And Historical Trauma; Politicizing Clinical Practice.

Gabor Mat - Trauma, Illness, And Healing In Relation To Toxic Culture; Perspectives On Resilience And The Limits Of Conventional Narratives.

Samah Jabr - Palestinian Historical Trauma; Psychological Consequences Of Colonization, Displacement, And Occupation; Decolonial Psycho-spiritual Framework For Dignity And Collective Care; Critique Of Western Mental Health Paradigms.

Daniel Foor - Animism And Antidotes To Human Supremacy; Islam As A Relational Tradition; Ancestral Healing And Decolonization; Spirituality’s Responsibility In The Face Of Injustice.

Staci K. Haines - Politicized Somatics; Trauma Healing Linked To Social And Climate Justice Movements; Sustaining Movement Work; Embodied Leadership.

Recent Topics

Decolonization, Psychology, Trauma, Somatics, Spirituality

Episodes

Here's the recent few episodes on
Sounds of SAND
:

What Occupation Does to the Soul: Samah Jabr, Gabor Maté, Jennifer Mullan, Facilitated by Jess Ghannam

July 02, 2026

Global Reverberations of Palestinian Historical Trauma: A SAND Community Gathering with Dr. Samah Jabr, Dr. Gabor Maté & Dr. Jennifer Mullan, facilitated by Dr. Jess Ghannam Join us for a conversation marking the book launch of Radiance and Pain in Resilience, a powerful collection of essays by Palestinian psychiatrist, psychotherapist, and internationally respected mental health advocate Dr. Samah Jabr. We are gathering in the midst of genocide. The massive, deliberate traumatization of ...

Animism, Activism & Ancestry: Daniel Foor

June 25, 2026

Daniel Foor returns to Sounds of SAND for a wide-ranging conversation that moves from his own winding spiritual path to the urgent question of why so many spiritual teachers stay silent in the face of injustice. A doctor of psychology, initiated priest in the Yoruba Ifá tradition, and practicing Muslim, Daniel makes the case that animism is the antidote to human supremacy, that Islam is fundamentally a relational and earth-honoring tradition, and that genuine spirituality cannot retreat from ...

Tending the Whole: Nkem Ndefo & Staci K. Haines, Facilitated by Rae Abileah

June 18, 2026

There is a “false wall” often placed between contemplative life and political action—a story implying that inner peace and outer justice are separate vocations. This imaginary divide exhausts us. In a world facing converging crises, how do those dedicated to healing move beyond the limits of individualized work to support systemic transformation? Join somatics experts and social change practitioners Nkem Ndefo and Staci K. Haines for a conversation introducing The Outer Work Project; an initi...

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