Booking Overview
Metrics
Episodes: 8
Frequency: Irregular
Rating: 4.5/5.0
Estimated listeners: 100 - 1,000
Gender skew: Male
Listener location: USA
YouTube: 9.0k subscribers
Contact Information
Publicly listed emails
gsaucedo@firstthings.com
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Host
Virginia Aabram - First Things editor who co-hosts Secret Third Thing, discussing modern, online trends and whether they are good, bad, or a “secret third thing.”
Germn S. Daz del Castillo - First Things editor and co-host of Secret Third Thing, discussing modern, online trends and whether they are good, bad, or a “secret third thing.”
Booking Intelligence
Booking Requirements
Recent Guest Discussions
Dan Hitchens - Contemporary Culture Themes Connected To Reading List (including Ai-related And Religious/cultural References).
Dave Greene - Conservative Culture And Related Essays/youtube Presence.
Suzy Weiss - Art And Aesthetics, Plus Cultural Commentary Referenced In The Further Reading.
Recent Topics
Episodes
The Second Death of Charlie Kirk (ft. Katherine Dee)
October 08, 2026
Further reading:"Your Phone Isn’t a Drug. It’s a Portal to the Otherworld," by Katherine Dee (New York Times)"The Kirkification of Our Troubled Times," by Brady Brickner-Wood (New Yorker)
Pope Leo's Unified Church (ft. Fr. James Martin)
September 09, 2026
Further reading:What Happened at Vatican II by John W. O'MalleyIf Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies, by Eliezer YudkowskyWork in Progress: Confessions of a busboy, dishwasher, caddy, usher, factory worker, bank teller, corporate tool, and priest – A Funny, Wise, and Inspiring Spiritual Memoir, by James Martin
Christianity Is Not a Tool (ft. Kelly Chapman)
August 14, 2026
Further reading: Kelly's X profile Kelly's Substack Secret Ballot
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Frequently asked questions
How do I get in touch with Secret Third Thing?
Secret Third Thing is hosted by Virginia Aabram and Germn S. Daz del Castillo. Its publicly listed email is gsaucedo@firstthings.com. For guest bookings, the host or producer is usually the best person to reach. Podseeker helps you find direct host and producer contacts and pitch from your own inbox.
What is the email for Secret Third Thing?
The publicly listed email for Secret Third Thing: gsaucedo@firstthings.com.
How many listeners does Secret Third Thing have?
Podseeker estimates Secret Third Thing reaches 100 to 1,000 listeners per episode. Only the publisher has exact numbers.
Who is an ideal guest for Secret Third Thing?
Secret Third Thing typically books well-known public figures. Typical guest background: Writers/essayists or public commentators with a record of publishing on culture, politics, theology/philosophy, art, or technology—often associated with respected outlets or having a substantial platform (e.g., essays, major press coverage, or an established YouTube/online publication presence). Common among recent guests: Published essays or commentary; Coverage or quotation in major media (e.g., newspapers/TV culture coverage); Authored books or contributed to well-known publications. Recent guests include Dan Hitchens, Dave Greene, and Suzy Weiss.
How hard is it to get booked on Secret Third Thing?
Medium. Guests usually need solid credentials in the topic and an idea that fits the show.
What topics does Secret Third Thing cover?
Recent episodes cover Online Trends, Politics, Theology, Philosophy, and Art. Pitch an idea tied to one of these topics and mention a recent episode.
Publicly listed emails
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