Say More

Shirley Leung, Anna Kusmer

jim.dao@globe.com

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Booking Overview

This is an interview-driven ideas and public-affairs show covering politics, media, science, health care, climate, and culture, with external guests including elected officials, academics and authors, and journalists. PR agencies could credibly pitch recognized policy experts, researchers, authors, public officials, and subject-matter leaders with a strong perspective on major public debates; booking is likely high difficulty because the show favors established, newsworthy voices.

Metrics

Episodes: 167

Frequency: Weekly

Rating: 4.3/5.0

Estimated listeners: 1k-10k

Gender skew: Unknown

Location: USA

Instagram: 452.0k followers

Contact Information

jim.dao@globe.com

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Host

Shirley Leung - Boston Globe columnist covering major public issues and debates.

Anna Kusmer - Host of the Patriotism Is a Verb series.

Booking Intelligence

Booking Requirements

high
Typical Credentials:  
Established public officials, historians, academics, authors, journalists, and subject-matter experts with authoritative perspectives on major political, scientific, social, or cultural debates.
Required Achievements:  
Elected office, Published books, Recognized journalism, Academic or institutional expertise

Recent Guest Discussions

Ayanna Pressley - Patriotism, Lawmaking, Protest, Dissent, Racial Justice, And American Ideals.

Beverly Gage - Patriotism, American History, National Identity, And Her Book This Land Is Your Land.

Ben Volin - The World Cup, Soccer’s Future In The United States, And The Cultural Impact Of Major Sporting Events.

Recent Topics

Politics, Biotechnology, Health Care, Climate

Episodes

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PATRIOTISM IS A VERB: Rep. Ayanna Pressley is an a ‘situationship’ with America

July 08, 2026

If you ask Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley about her relationship with America, she doesn't mince words, “it’s complicated.” Pressley has come to develop strong feelings of patriotism that are rooted in love for American people and the promise of the American ideals of equality and justice. On this second episode of PATRIOTISM IS A VERB, Pressley discusses the verbs that are most patriotic to her: things like lawmaking, protest, and dissent. She also talks about the ways Black people have pushe...

PATRIOTISM IS A VERB: Liberals have a Patriotism Problem

July 02, 2026

This July 4th, liberals are faced with an awkward milestone. The country’s 250th anniversary requires our attention, and yet, the state of national politics brings only angst and despair. This month on Say More, we bring you the series PATRIOTISM IS A VERB, about the ways liberals who are uncomfortable with the idea of patriotism and reclaim their love of country. In this first episode, host Anna Kusmer talks to Yale Historian Beverly Gage about the power of a good American road trip, and her...

How Boston Came Down with World Cup Fever

June 25, 2026

Despite every prediction of endless traffic, grumpy residents and societal collapse, Boston hosting the World Cup has been downright delightful. The biggest surprise for many has been the Tartan Army, a truly shocking influx of Scottish fans in our streets, drinking all our beer and eating all our ranch dressing. This week on Say More, Shirley Leung talks to Globe NFL writer Ben Volin who has been moonlighting as the paper’s chief soccer correspondent and covering all seven World Cup games in...

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