Organize Chaos

Chris Ronzio, Jonathan Ronzio, Sasha Robinson

trent@trainual.com

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Booking Overview

Organize Chaos is a business-leadership show built for small businesses and entrepreneurs, blending productivity and people/process advice with occasional feature interviews. It’s especially attractive for PR pitches that center on operations, management, culture/people ops, and practical growth playbooks.

Metrics

Episodes: 407

Frequency: Multiple_weekly

Rating: 4.9/5.0

Estimated listeners: 1k-10k

Gender skew: Male

Location: USA

YouTube: 10.6k subscribers

Instagram: 79.0k followers

Contact Information

trent@trainual.com

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Host

Chris Ronzio - Founder and CEO of Trainual; hosts Organize Chaos, providing entrepreneurial and small business leadership advice on building a better business, staying productive, and living a balanced life. The ...

Jonathan Ronzio - Co-host on the show’s return; described as Trainual co-founder plus CMO/CRO, and appears in the latest episodes alongside Chris and Sasha.

Sasha Robinson - Co-host on the show’s return; described as Trainual VP of People Operations and appears alongside Chris and Jonathan on recent episodes.

Booking Intelligence

Booking Requirements

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Typical Credentials:  
Operator-led founders/execs and proven scaling leaders (e.g., multi-location retail/service operators, founders, people-ops/HR leaders, and business executives with measurable growth outcomes).
Required Achievements:  
scaled to large multi-location footprints, built/expanded product lines, high-value exits or major sales outcomes, demonstrated people/process transformation at a growth stage, credible SMB playbooks and operational systems

Recent Guest Discussions

Alli Webb - Scaling Drybar To 150+ Locations And Selling A Product Line For $255m; Business Growth Lessons (fireside Chat).

Recent Topics

Small Business, Business Strategy, Leadership, Productivity, Operations

Episodes

Here's the recent few episodes on
Organize Chaos
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AI Layoffs, Middle Management & Hybrid Work

June 22, 2026

Chris Ronzio, Jonathan Ronzio, and Sasha Robinson trade hot takes on the workforce headlines everyone's arguing about. Are companies really cutting jobs because of AI, or just using it as cover for bad decisions and overhiring? Is the war on middle management (à la GitLab's three-layer flattening) a smart move or a morale killer? And with engagement at an 11-year low and "quiet stayers" replacing quiet quitters, how much turnover is actually healthy?Then things get personal:...

The Podcast Rebirth and State of AI in Business

June 10, 2026

The return of Organize Chaos! This time, Chris has co-hosts... Trainual Co-Founder and CMO/CRO, Jonathan Ronzio, plus Trainual's VP of People Operations, Sasha Robinson take the mic for the indefinite future of the show.Expect Chris, Jonathan, and Sasha, plus guests, to bring you all things business and tech, marketing and sales, people and culture, with behind the scenes real-time insights around how they're building at Trainual.

Live Q&A with Alli Webb | Playbook 2022

March 17, 2023

We've formatted our epic Playbook 2022 sessions for the podcast so you can take them on the go wherever you are. This episode features Alli Webb of Drybar hosted by myself and Jonathan Ronzio.  How did Alli Webb scale Drybar to 150+ locations and a product line that she sold for $255M? We'll dig into this and more during a fireside chat. Want more? For a full breakdown on this session check out The Manual! Find episode show notes, podcast blog recaps, and the best SMB news & tips on ...

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