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The Gordon Ramsay of Addiction - Robb Kelly

June 02, 2026

On this episode of Escaping the Drift, we sit down with Dr. Robb Kelly: former Abbey Road session musician, PhD in psychology from Oxford, and the man often called the Gordon Ramsay of the addiction world.Before becoming one of the most sought after addiction specialists in the country, Robb played bass alongside Bowie, Queen, and Elton John, then watched it all disappear into a two bottle a day vodka habit that cost him his children, his homes, and twice cost him his life on the streets of M...

How She Sold $2.5 Billion On TV Using This Pitch Formula - Dr Forbes Riley

May 26, 2026

On this episode of Escaping the Drift, we sit down with Dr. Forbes Riley: the woman called the Queen of Pitch, host of over 197 national infomercials, two-time TEDx speaker, and the inventor behind the Spin Gym who has personally sold over 2.5 billion dollars worth of products on television.Before becoming one of the most coached pitch experts in the world with over 100,000 entrepreneurs in her playbook, Forbes was a goofy little girl from Long Island with frizzy hair, eight years of braces, ...

He Turned A Summer Job Into A Nine Figure Exit - David Royce

May 19, 2026

On this episode of Escaping the Drift, we sit down with David Royce: founder of Aptiv, EY National Entrepreneur of the Year, and the man who turned a college summer job spraying for bugs into a nine figure exit to private equity.Before selling Aptiv for a number that made hundreds of his employees six and seven figure earners, David was a broke BYU finance student who sold zero pest control contracts in his first five days on the job. He went to a bookstore, bought half a dozen sales classics...