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Why Bans Aren’t the Only Answer: Zoe Kalar on Fixing Social Media

August 08, 2026

*This week, Lee and Adam are joined by Zoe Kalar, founder of We Are 8, for a fascinating conversation about the future of social media and why she believes the internet can be redesigned to put people before profit. Zoe explains the vision behind the platform, why she spent a decade building it, and how its unique model aims to inspire people to spend less time scrolling and more time living.* *The discussion explores the darker side of today's social media platforms*, from addictive algo...

Daniel Kebede - General Secretary of the National Education Union

August 01, 2026

*This week, Lee is joined by Daniel Kebede, General Secretary of the National Education Union, for a wide ranging and honest conversation about the biggest challenges facing education today.* They discuss why every teacher and support staff member should be in a union, the benefits that go far beyond workplace protection, and Daniel shares his own journey from primary teacher and PRU maths teacher to leading Europe's largest education union. *The conversation tackles the growing funding c...

LO: To know what happens on the staff night out, stays on the night out unless you’re sharing it anonymously on the pod!

July 23, 2026

This week, the lads wrap up the final full episode of the school year by reflecting on another academic year in education, thanking listeners for their support and debating the annual calls to shorten the six week summer holidays. They discuss why children and staff desperately need the break, the pressures on working parents and why better holiday provision, rather than less time off, is the real answer. There's a passionate discussion about Ofsted after schools are still being inspected du...