"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

Nathan Labenz, Erik Torenberg

natalie@turpentine.co

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Booking Overview

The Cognitive Revolution is a biweekly AI-focused show where Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview builders and researchers pushing the frontier of continual learning, agent security, and next-gen AI architectures. It’s a good platform for PR outreach tied to credible, technical innovation and real-world experimentation in AI systems.

Metrics

Episodes: 348

Frequency: Biweekly

Rating: 4.5/5.0

Estimated listeners: 1k-10k

Gender skew: Male

Location: USA

YouTube: 42.1k subscribers

Contact Information

natalie@turpentine.co

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Host

Nathan Labenz - Co-host of The Cognitive Revolution (Turpentine podcast network). Focuses on builders and researchers working on AI systems and the practical implications of frontier models, including agent infras...

Erik Torenberg - Co-host of The Cognitive Revolution (Turpentine podcast network). Conducts in-depth interviews with AI builders and researchers exploring what’s changing in AI capabilities, architectures, and the ...

Booking Intelligence

Booking Requirements

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Typical Credentials:  
Researchers (PhD students/postdocs/research staff) and builders with publishable technical work, notable security/AI infrastructure expertise, or widely known AI engineering products/frameworks.
Required Achievements:  
Authored or co-authored recognized technical papers, Work at major labs/companies (e.g., Google) or advanced academic programs, Created influential AI/security tooling or systems used by practitioners, Demonstrated real-world AI implementation and/or safety/monitoring methods

Recent Guest Discussions

Ali Behrouz - Continual Learning Architectures, “nested Learning,” Adaptive Layer Update Frequencies, AI “sleep” For Memory Consolidation, Links To Privacy/alignment And AGI Implications

Daniel Miessler - AI Personal Infrastructure/agent Hierarchy, Security Measures For AI Setups, Social Norms For Ai-human Interaction And Disclosure, “bitter Lesson Engineering”

Recent Topics

Artificial Intelligence, Continual Learning, Ai Safety, Agentic Systems, Machine Learning

Episodes

Here's the recent few episodes on
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis
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AI in the AM — Week 1 Highlights (June 2026)

June 06, 2026

This first highlights edition of the morning experiment tracks a week of fast-moving AI frontier news, from closed-door recursive self-improvement debates to OpenAI’s call for independent model review. You’ll hear why labs are betting on AI monitors, where safety plans still look thin, and how cheap scaffolds are already improving tax workflows. The episode also tests moderation progress and surveys AI science, cybersecurity, Vatican ethics, solo-business automation, and mental health support...

Nested Learning: Ali Behrouz on the Quest for Continual Learning & Illusion of AI Architectures

June 03, 2026

Ali Behrouz, grad student at Cornell and Google researcher, discusses his potentially transformative work on new architectures for continual learning in AI. His paper "Nested Learning," praised by Jeff Dean as a possible paradigm shift, enables models to adapt to new context while preserving core knowledge by updating different layers at different frequencies, inspired by human memory systems. The conversation also covers his latest work on AI "sleep" for memory consolidation, why he sees all...

Inside Nathan's Second Brain: Daniel Miessler, Security Expert & Creator of PAI, Audits My AI Setup

June 01, 2026

Daniel Miessler returns to discuss Nathan's newly built personal AI infrastructure, including a Claude Code instance with a 1 GB database of five years of digital history and two autonomous AI "employees" that handle scheduling, communications, and projects independently. They dive deep into agent hierarchy design, security measures, social norms around AI-human interaction and disclosure, and why sharing your "ideal state" with AI leads to more proactive assistance. Daniel also introduces hi...

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